TLT Outruns IEF: How Much Duration Is the Market Buying?

IEF gained 1.08% and TLT 1.87% as the 10-year Treasury yield fell over 17 basis points to 4.972%, its lowest since Sept. 23. Equity weakness, AI credit concerns, and safe-haven demand supported bonds, though oil near $100 keeps inflation risks alive. Bulls favor TLT if growth cools; bears warn long duration is vulnerable to inflation and rate repricing. What macro signal would justify extending duration from IEF to TLT?

avatarD1ane
10-24
TLT vs IEF: Is It Time to Bet on Longer-Dated Bonds? As Treasury yields fall and equity markets face renewed pressure, US government bonds are attracting attention. But the rally in long-duration bonds raises an important question: is the market pricing in slower growth, or simply seeking safety? IEF, which tracks 7–10-year US Treasury bonds, gained 1.08%, while TLT, which tracks 20+ year Treasuries, climbed 1.87%. The 10-year Treasury yield fell more than 17 basis points to 4.972%, its lowest level since September 23. Why TLT Is Outperforming TLT is more sensitive to interest-rate changes because its underlying bonds have longer maturities. When yields fall, long-duration bonds generally experience larger price gains. If economic growth weakens and the Federal Reserve begins cutting rates
avatarMarket_Chart
2025-04-16

Gold Fund Net Inflows Double the High from 2020 Covid Time

Gold Fund Net Inflows Double the High from 2020 Covid Time
avatarPigpen
2025-04-16
China selling is already baked into expectations. 
avatarttone
2025-04-15
Short if you are Hodler. 
avatarttone
2025-04-15
🤔 should think about the short/long carefully this time being!
avatarkannan2025
2025-04-15
Chances to bullish market 
avatarMickey082024
2025-04-14

World Dumping U.S Treasury Bond, Would You Buy?

$iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$ U.S. Braces for a Deeper Bond Sell-Off Washington is bracing for impact. If there was a single factor that forced Trump to pause tariffs, it was the bond market. Global retaliation, combined with investor fear, sent shockwaves through U.S. markets. The sell-off highlighted the dangerous path protectionism could lead us down. If the U.S. moves aggressively toward protectionism, foreign buyers have little incentive to hold U.S. debt. Domestic demand would fall, production costs would rise, and U.S. exports would become less competitive. That spells lower global revenues and, in turn, diminished confidence in U.S. Treasuries. This triggered a historic bond rout. Yields on the 10-year Treasury—the benchmark for
World Dumping U.S Treasury Bond, Would You Buy?
avatarpay to win
2025-04-14
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avatarBarcode
2025-04-12
Replying to @nomadic_m:🙏🏼 for the tag nm. Interesting to read! So once again, New Zealand is excluded from a feature on what’s marketed as a global platform? Are Aussie members also left out? Mig and Ah_Meng, do either of you have access to this feature? @Mig @Ah_Meng Cheers ic for filling us in on the details @icycrystal //@nomadic_m:no such thing in NZ! very interesting betting mechanism. Wow I learnt something new again today @Barcode //
avatarTATAN
2025-04-11
As above China would not want to devalue RMB
avatarTATAN
2025-04-11
If China short. It still need to convert to RMB. Thus weakening its own currency. Would China do that?
avatarAN88
2025-04-10
No won't go short. Will keep long term
avatarMarket_Chart
2025-04-09

Smoothed recession probabilities are in the basement

October 2023: US 10-yr bond yields 5% , "Strong economy, no recession." Oct 2023: Positive Fiscal Impulse April 2025: US 10-yr bond yield 4.37%, "bond market is crashing, recession imminent."Apr 2025: Negative Fiscal Impulse$iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$ You cannot make this up. via Bloomberg.ImageSmoothed #recession probabilities are in the basement, as low as they can go. There is only a recession in sentiment currently, not the real hard data, despite Larry "fake the funk" Fink's suggestion. A recession will demand current endogeny is sustained (tariffs).ImageAt this pace, President Donald J. Trump will produce the WORST $S&P 500(.SPX)$ return in 1st 75 days of a presidency... in history
Smoothed recession probabilities are in the basement
avatarOptionsAura
2025-04-09

U.S. debt keeps plummeting! How to use Diagonal Spread?

On Monday, when the eyes of all market participants were attracted by the roller coaster market of US stocks triggered by the "tariff extension rumor", the really strange market actually happened in the US bond market...In the past 24 hours, the U.S. bond, which was regarded as the "king of safe haven" last week, suffered a sharp plunge at lightning speed, and the 10-year U.S. bond yield almost completely returned to Trump's level before the reciprocal tariff was announced last week!This historic sell-off caused almost all medium-and long-term U.S. bond yields to surge by more than 20 basis points in intraday trading on Monday, with the 30-year bond yield rising nearly 23 basis points in late trading, setting a record in 2020. The biggest one-day gain since the early COVID-19 pandemic.It c
U.S. debt keeps plummeting! How to use Diagonal Spread?
avatarHYo
2025-04-09
Will you shift to US Treasuries?
avatarMickey082024
2025-04-08

Trump Tariffs Cause Stocks Crash What Next?

$S&P 500(.SPX)$ $Apple(AAPL)$ Good day, Tiger investors. We seem to be stepping into a very different world—one marked by increasing uncertainty, economic upheaval, and shifting global dynamics. This past week has been especially turbulent, touching nearly every aspect of our interconnected systems—economics, finance, global trade. The shockwaves are real, and they demand thoughtful discussion. As investors, we are compelled to look beyond the noise. Yes, the headlines are intense. But we must keep our focus: evaluate risk vs. reward, analyze the long-term implications, and understand where opportunities lie amid chaos. That’s our job, and that’s how we prosper when others panic. A Changing Global Lan
Trump Tariffs Cause Stocks Crash What Next?
avatarAN88
2025-04-08
Yes will invest in treasurys 
avatarTyches Swan
2025-04-07
If I had cash, I'd park it in treasuries at least till the news cycle is a little bit more optimistic. There's more downside risk in the short term.
avatarJimmyHua
2025-04-07
Shifting entirely to Treasuries might protect capital, but it sacrifices growth.Inflation risks could still erode real returns, even at higher yields.Alternatives like dividend aristocrats or gold offer safety with upside.Long-term investors shouldn’t time the market based on fear.Partial hedging makes sense, but going all-in is too defensive.Balance is better than retreat.
avatarWendyOneP
2025-04-07
With global equities tanking, capital preservation is key.US Treasuries remain the world’s most liquid and reliable safe haven.Yields may be low, but stability matters more in a downturn.Flight-to-quality flows are already pushing bond prices higher.They also provide dry powder for re-entry into risk assets later.In panic mode, Treasuries are the rational refuge.