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What? What? Billionaires like Bezos and Soros have had zero income tax for many years?
报告显示,刚刚夺回世界首富宝座的亚马逊创始人贝佐斯(Jeff Bezos)在2007年和2011年的个人所得税缴纳额度都是零,而另外一位风云人物、一度威胁到贝佐斯地位的特斯拉创始人马斯克(Elon M
What? What? Billionaires like Bezos and Soros have had zero income tax for many years?
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Don't consider Li Auto a high-end brand? Nio: Forward-looking research and development is the only way to achieve high
近日,一张主题为“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”的数据统计图在网络流传。
Don't consider Li Auto a high-end brand? Nio: Forward-looking research and development is the only way to achieve high
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Reminder: The market closure schedule for the Dragon Boat Festival is here! Hong Kong stocks will be closed for one day on June 14.
6月14日(周一)休市,6月15日(周二)起照常开市。美股、英股、新加坡股市照常交易。端午节,又称端阳节、龙舟节、天中节等,源于自然天象崇拜,由上古时代祭龙演变而来。因传说战国时期的楚国诗人屈原在五月五日跳汨罗江自尽,后来人们亦将端午节作为纪念屈原的节日;也有纪念伍子胥、曹娥及介子推等说法。总的来说,端午节起源于上古先民择“飞龙在天”吉日拜祭龙祖、祈福辟邪,注入夏季时令“祛病防疫"风尚。
Reminder: The market closure schedule for the Dragon Boat Festival is here! Hong Kong stocks will be closed for one day on June 14.
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What? Billionaires like Bezos and Soros have had zero income tax for many years?\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\"> 腾讯美股 </strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-11 21:04</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p><i>The report shows that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who recently regained his title as the world's richest man, paid zero personal income tax in both 2007 and 2011, while another prominent figure, Tesla founder Elon Musk, who once threatened Bezos's status, also achieved the same in 2018.</i><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cf632fb0288a721eb936e815f574640\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"673\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">As is well known, the White House is currently mulling a wide-ranging tax increase plan targeting businesses and wealthy individuals, and a study released on Tuesday will undoubtedly strengthen Biden's resolve, as it shows that some of America's richest billionaires have paid almost no taxes in recent years.</p><p>This bombshell comes from ProPublica, a New York-based news nonprofit. The report shows that Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, who recently regained his title as the world's richest man, paid zero personal income tax in both 2007 and 2011, while another prominent figure, Tesla founder Elon Musk, who once threatened Bezos's status, also achieved the same in 2018.</p><p>ProPublica did not disclose how they obtained these reliable tax data, but their report emphasized that some of the wealthiest individuals in the United States \"pay income taxes that are completely disproportionate to their enormous wealth, and sometimes they don't even pay a single penny in taxes.\"</p><p>According to IRS records, many well-known billionaires have had zero personal income tax for several years, such as media mogul and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg, who ran for president last year; Carly Cahn, known as the \"Wolf King of Wall Street\"; and legendary investor George Soros.</p><p>ProPublica explained that these billionaires did not engage in any illegal or irregular activities when filing their taxes, but they did employ sophisticated tax avoidance strategies that were \"far beyond the reach of ordinary people.\"</p><p>These people are able to pay less or no taxes largely because of the definition of taxable income in U.S. tax laws—the appreciation of assets such as stocks and real estate is not considered taxable income, and is only taxed when these assets are sold.</p><p>Not long ago, G7 finance ministers met and signed an agreement on a minimum 15% threshold for global corporate income tax rates—a motion aimed at forcing highly profitable multinational corporations to pay a reasonable amount of tax.</p><p>There are many similar efforts, such as Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren's motion to tax the super-rich, which would also include the appreciation of their stock holdings and real estate, rather than focusing solely on the proceeds from sales as in the past.</p><p>Following the release of ProPublica's report, Warren commented on social media platforms; “Our tax system has been manipulated to favor billionaires, who, unlike most working-class families, do not primarily earn their wealth,” she appealed again. \"Now is the time to impose a wealth tax in the United States, so that the super-rich pay a reasonable amount of tax commensurate with the size of their wealth.\"</p><p>ProPublica reached its conclusion after studying IRS data on the wealthiest families' tax filing history of more than 15 years. The report stated: \"Overall, this also fully demonstrates the cornerstone of the U.S. tax system, which is that everyone pays their fair share and the wealthiest pay the most, which is completely fabricated.\"</p><p>The Treasury Department and other government agencies are investigating how the tax information was leaked. A Treasury Department spokesperson stated, \"Unauthorized disclosure of credible federal government data is illegal.\"</p><p>The questions have now been referred to Treasury investigators, the FBI, and federal prosecutors, \"who are independent authorities qualified to conduct investigations.\"</p><p>Data shows that Bezos's taxable investment losses reported in 2011 exceeded his income, meaning that he did not make money that year, but instead lost money. At the same time, he also received a $4,000 tax credit for his children that year.</p><p>Bezos, Musk, Icahn, Soros, and others did not respond to media requests for comment.</p><p>A spokesperson for Soros told ProPublica that he did not pay personal income tax from 2016 to 2018 because he lost money on his investments. However, he personally supports higher tax rates for the wealthy, a position he has publicly stated on multiple occasions.</p><p>Bloomberg and Icahn told the agency that they owed no less than a penny in taxes.</p><p>ProPublica found that, based on the Forbes list, these wealthy individuals paid far less than 37% of their wealth increase in taxes over the vast majority of years, even though the latter is the official tax rate that logically applies to them.</p><p>ProPublica cited an example: if their \"true tax rate\" were applied, Buffett's tax rate would be only 0.1% from 2014 to 2018.</p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> source:<a href=\"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/snW4sHpxKwkdF5UnWJYbuQ\"> 腾讯美股 </a></p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cf632fb0288a721eb936e815f574640","relate_stocks":{"AMZN":"亚马逊"},"source_url":"https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/snW4sHpxKwkdF5UnWJYbuQ","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1145348880","content_text":"报告显示,刚刚夺回世界首富宝座的亚马逊创始人贝佐斯(Jeff Bezos)在2007年和2011年的个人所得税缴纳额度都是零,而另外一位风云人物、一度威胁到贝佐斯地位的特斯拉创始人马斯克(Elon Musk),在2018年同样做到了这一点。\n\n众所周知,白宫目前正在酝酿针对企业和富有个人的大范围增税计划,而本周二发布的一份研究报告无疑会让拜登的决心更加坚定,因为该报告显示,美国一些最富有的亿万富翁最近几年几乎都没有缴纳过一分钱税款。\n这一重磅炸弹来自于纽约的新闻行业非营利机构ProPublica,报告显示,刚刚夺回世界首富宝座的亚马逊创始人贝佐斯(Jeff Bezos)在2007年和2011年的个人所得税缴纳额度都是零,而另外一位风云人物、一度威胁到贝佐斯地位的特斯拉创始人马斯克(Elon Musk),在2018年同样做到了这一点。\nProPublica并没有披露他们是如何得到这些可靠的税务数据的,但是他们在报告当中强调,美国一些最富有的个人“缴纳的所得税与他们的巨大财富完全不成比例,有些时候甚至一分钱的税都不缴”。\n根据美国国税局的记录,不少大名鼎鼎的亿万富翁都曾经有过若干年个人所得税为零的记录,比如媒体大亨、去年曾经参选总统的前纽约市长布隆伯格(Michael Bloomberg),有“华尔街狼王”之名的大亨伊坎(CarlIcahn),还有传奇投资人索罗斯(George Soros)等。\nProPublica解释说,这些亿万富翁在报税时并没有任何的违法违规操作,但是他们确实采取了高明的避税策略,而后者“远非普通人所能够接触到的”。\n这些人得以少缴税甚至不缴税,很大程度上也是靠着美国税务法规对应税所得的界定——股票和房地产等资产价格增值,并不视为应税所得,只有在这些资产卖掉时,才对所得课税。\n不久前,七国集团财长刚刚举行会议,签署了关于全球企业所得税率最低15%门槛的协议——这一动议正是针对那些利润丰厚的跨国企业,要逼迫他们缴纳合理的税额。\n类似的努力还有不少,比如民主党参议员沃伦(Elizabeth Warren)发起了对超级富豪征税的动议,要将他们持有的股票和房产增值也纳入课税范围,而非像过去那样只着眼于出售所得。\nProPublica的报告发布之后,沃伦在社交媒体平台上评论道;“我们的税务系统受到了操控,向着亿万富翁们倾斜,这些人与大多数工薪家庭不同,他们的财富主要并不是所得。”她再度呼吁;“现在是时候在美国征收财富税,让那些超级富翁支付与自己财富规模相当的合理税款了。”\nProPublica是在研究了国税局关于那些最富有家庭超过十五年报税历史的数据后得出的结论,报告称:“整体而言,这也充分证明美国税务系统的理念基石,即所有人都缴纳合理的份额,那些富有者缴纳最多,纯粹就是子虚乌有。”\n财政部和其他一些政府机构正在调查这些税务资料到底是如何泄漏的。财政部发言人表示:“联邦政府可信数据的无授权披露是违法的。”\n现在,问题已经被递交给财政部调查员、联邦调查局和联邦检察官,“他们都是独立的,有资格展开调查的权威机构”。\n资料显示,贝佐斯2011年报告的投资应税亏损超过了所得,意味着他当年没有赚钱,反而赔钱了。与此同时,他还因为自己的孩子在当年度获得了4000美元的税务优惠。\n贝佐斯、马斯克、伊坎和索罗斯等人都没有回应媒体发表评论的要求。\n索罗斯的一位发言人对ProPublica表示,索罗斯2016年到2018年没有缴纳个人所得税,是因为他的投资赔了钱,不过,他个人支持对富有阶层施以更高税率,这也是他曾经多次公开表明过的立场。\n布隆伯格和伊坎则对该机构表示,他们该缴纳的税金一分钱也不少。\nProPublica发现,如果以《福布斯》排行榜为依据,这些富人们在绝大多数年头当中所缴纳的税款都远不及他们财富增加额度的37%,尽管后者是他们逻辑上适用的官方正式税率。\nProPublica举例说,如果适用他们的“真实税率”,那么巴菲特从2014年到2018年的税率只有0.1%。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"AMZN":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2103,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":182536471,"gmtCreate":1623587291893,"gmtModify":1704206645715,"author":{"id":"3581932308267589","authorId":"3581932308267589","name":"Ak88","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581932308267589","idStr":"3581932308267589"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Like and comment","listText":"Like and comment","text":"Like and comment","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/182536471","repostId":"1131545033","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1131545033","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623557330,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1131545033?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-13 12:08","market":"us","language":"zh","title":"Don't consider Li Auto a high-end brand? Nio: Forward-looking research and development is the only way to achieve high","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1131545033","media":"时代财经","summary":"近日,一张主题为“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”的数据统计图在网络流传。","content":"<p>Author: Li Zhuoling</p><p>Recently, a statistical chart titled \"May Sales and Transaction Prices of High-End Brands\" has been circulating online. This chart encompasses mainstream luxury brands in the domestic market, including German, American, Japanese, and domestic brands. It compiles statistics on the sales volume and average selling price of each brand in May, and ranks them accordingly. It is worth mentioning that FAW Hongqi and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>They are the only two Chinese brands included in the ranking.</p><p>Although the source of the image is not indicated, its predominantly blue color scheme and emphasis on transaction prices are reminiscent of Nio. In addition, according to Times Finance's analysis, the \"High-end Brand X Month Sales and Transaction Price\" chart is not the first time it has appeared in the market. In mid-May, a similar April data chart appeared and attracted attention and discussion from all parties. The latest May chart has sparked a public opinion storm about \"what constitutes a high-end brand\".</p><p>On June 11, a financial media influencer and Nio owner posted on the Nio official APP, citing the aforementioned chart of \"May sales and transaction prices of high-end brands,\" questioning why Li Auto and XPeng were not compared in the chart, and whether it indicated that they were not considered \"high-end brands.\"</p><p>The post was subsequently verified as a response from Ma Lin, Senior Director of Corporate Communications and Public Relations at Nio: \"In terms of price, Ideal's products are not low, so it's appropriate to include them in the pictures. When designing this high-end brand sales and price communication chart, I discussed it with some media friends and colleagues. The following two sentiments prevailed: one was that only positive research and development could be called high-end; the other was that Nio was constantly facing overt and covert attacks.\" This is the story behind the dissemination map.</p><p>The reply immediately sparked widespread discussion, with some netizens exclaiming \"let's fight!\" while others distilled and interpreted the two sentiments mentioned in the reply as \"one is that ideals are the opposite; the other is that groups related to ideals are attacking Nio.\"</p><p>On June 12, Times Finance sent an interview request to Nio regarding the controversy sparked by the propagated image and its response, but had not received a response as of press time.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/74f6aa13817776915eef402fb5fcacf8\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"393\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Internet. Please contact us to remove any infringements.</p><p>Controversy: Is an ideal considered high-end?</p><p>According to the chart of \"May Sales and Transaction Prices of High-End Brands\", only two Chinese brands, Hongqi and Nio, were on the list of 15 brands. Among them, Hongqi sold 19,115 units that month, ranking 6th in terms of sales volume. However, in terms of average transaction price, the brand ranked last with 212,000 yuan, the lowest average transaction price on the list.</p><p>Although Nio' sales are not as good as Hongqi's, its average transaction price ranks fourth among them. According to the ranking data, Nio sold 6,078 vehicles in May, with an average transaction price of 432,900 yuan, only 2,700 yuan behind Mercedes-Benz, which ranked third in terms of transaction price. The Porsche with the highest transaction price was 834,300 yuan, followed by Land Rover with an average transaction price of 657,800 yuan.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/165ca4b184d6a72e78ec4e8ac71aeb44\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"395\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Nio official APP</p><p>However, the controversy surrounding this high-end brand sales volume and price dissemination chart mainly concentrates on the fact that only Nio, the \"three treasures of emerging car manufacturers\" with whom they have always been close, is on the list, while the other two competitors are nowhere to be seen. In other words,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">XPeng Automotive</a>It is not recognized as a high-end brand for comparison.</p><p>\"The Nio employees who created this map had their own 'little tricks.' You should know that the lowest average transaction price for Hongqi is already 212,000 yuan. It's one thing that XPeng wasn't included in this map, but the average transaction price for Li Auto is over 320,000 yuan, and 4,323 vehicles were delivered in May. Based on the transaction price and sales volume, it must have reached the lowest value. It should be included in this map no matter what.\" The aforementioned consumer posted on the official Nio APP expressing his confusion.</p><p>According to the latest data released by Li Auto on June 2, it delivered 4,323 vehicles in May, a year-on-year increase of 101.3%. Currently, Li Auto only has<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b325ee5d950d5419ed974c29fb1e901\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">The 2021 Li Auto ONE, which will be delivered starting in June, has a unified retail price of 338,000 yuan nationwide, which is 10,000 yuan more expensive than the previous model (328,000 yuan). In other words, even in May, before the facelift was released, the average transaction price of the Li Auto was no less than 328,000 yuan.</p><p>In response, the consumer made two major suggestions to Nio: first, to include Li Auto in the picture next month; and second, to note \"excluding range-extended car brands\" in the picture. In response to the consumer's post, Ma Lin said that he would seriously consider the relevant suggestions, \"Looking back now, I was too obsessed. Objectively reflecting the market situation is beneficial to users as a whole.\"</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f0295a413182c34f0f95990635ab3b5\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"652\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Screenshot from Nio official APP</p><p>In fact, the infographic does not provide further comments or explanations regarding the definition of a high-end brand. NIO founder and CEO Li Bin recently stated at the 4th National Young Entrepreneurs Summit that \"the average selling price of Nio cars is 434,700 yuan, which is higher than the average selling price of Audi and BMW, and even higher than...\"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>The average selling price in China is also about 100,000 yuan higher, and as of the end of April this year, Nio had delivered a total of 102,803 vehicles. This is enough to demonstrate that Nio has become a high-end brand, at least initially.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1fe67c3cc2a4b496fa4d5115dfcba2f\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"467\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Internet. Please contact us to remove any infringements.</p><p>Love-Hate Entanglement: A Ranking Battle?</p><p>It is worth noting that regarding the controversy sparked by the aforementioned \"May sales and transaction prices of high-end brands\" dissemination chart, some netizens expressed their agreement with Nio' approach, saying that \"in all the rankings released by Li Auto, it always cleverly avoids Nio models that perform better than it with precise attributes.\" In response, many netizens offered suggestions, suggesting that Nio Motors rearrange the attributes. \"This list is indeed easy to misunderstand. I suggest that Nio add appropriate attributes, or just make a new energy vehicle list and label pure electric vehicles in small print.\"</p><p>On the same day, Li Auto also released two sales rankings. In the May sales ranking of new energy SUVs (including pure electric, range-extended electric, and plug-in hybrid models), the Li Auto ONE ranked second, second only to Tesla.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f57244ae005ef9eb817a8fe277106b8b\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Model Y( parameters | pictures); In May's mid-to-large SUV sales rankings, it surpassed SAIC Volkswagen.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39488c66c41c15443f5a5326ccefd07e\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Teramont (parameters|image) unlocks the champion.</p><p>In response, Li Xiang, founder and CEO of Li Auto, posted on his personal social media platform that although it faced a change in model year in May, the Li Auto ONE still became the top-selling mid-to-large-sized SUV in China for the first time, including all gasoline and new energy vehicles. \"We've finally achieved the boast we made when we first launched the Li Auto ONE project (the number ONE seller of mid-to-large SUVs).\"</p><p>Looking at the \"May Mid-to-Large SUV Sales Ranking\" chart above, neither Nio nor XPeng Motor Company has any corresponding models on the list. According to the \"May New Energy SUV Sales Ranking\" chart, Nio...<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f36e436ab4b63bb13c26954a43ffebe7\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">ES6 (parameters | pictures) and Nio<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f36e436ab4b63bb13c26954a43ffebe7\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">The EC6 ranked 4th and 6th on the list, respectively, while the XPeng G3 ranked 7th, both behind the Li Auto ONE.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0365bcce6471b5c9dbbce69d5808f2cc\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"395\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Li Auto</p><p>In response, an industry insider analyzed for Times Finance that there are some tricks in setting up the above rankings. For example, the \"May Mid-to-Large SUV Sales Ranking\" chart sets a threshold for mid-to-large SUVs, which prevents the ES6, the best-selling model in Nio, from being selected. Previously, many automakers had tried to package themselves as \"number one\" with different indicators and settings.</p><p>According to NIO's latest sales data, Nio delivered 6,711 units in May 2021, a year-on-year increase of 95.3%. Among them, Nio delivered 1,412 ES8 units, Nio delivered 3,017 ES6 units, and Nio delivered 2,282 EC6 units.</p><p>\"Healthy competition is something the market welcomes,\" the aforementioned industry insider told Times Finance. However, instead of fighting fiercely over sales rankings, it's better to focus on making good products. After all, any good word-of-mouth and positive reviews ultimately come from consumers, not from automakers' self-promotion.</p>","source":"tf_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Don't consider Li Auto a high-end brand? 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Nio: Forward-looking research and development is the only way to achieve high\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<p class=\"head\">\n<strong class=\"h-name small\">时代财经</strong><span class=\"h-time small\">2021-06-13 12:08</span>\n</p>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Author: Li Zhuoling</p><p>Recently, a statistical chart titled \"May Sales and Transaction Prices of High-End Brands\" has been circulating online. This chart encompasses mainstream luxury brands in the domestic market, including German, American, Japanese, and domestic brands. It compiles statistics on the sales volume and average selling price of each brand in May, and ranks them accordingly. It is worth mentioning that FAW Hongqi and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">Nio</a>They are the only two Chinese brands included in the ranking.</p><p>Although the source of the image is not indicated, its predominantly blue color scheme and emphasis on transaction prices are reminiscent of Nio. In addition, according to Times Finance's analysis, the \"High-end Brand X Month Sales and Transaction Price\" chart is not the first time it has appeared in the market. In mid-May, a similar April data chart appeared and attracted attention and discussion from all parties. The latest May chart has sparked a public opinion storm about \"what constitutes a high-end brand\".</p><p>On June 11, a financial media influencer and Nio owner posted on the Nio official APP, citing the aforementioned chart of \"May sales and transaction prices of high-end brands,\" questioning why Li Auto and XPeng were not compared in the chart, and whether it indicated that they were not considered \"high-end brands.\"</p><p>The post was subsequently verified as a response from Ma Lin, Senior Director of Corporate Communications and Public Relations at Nio: \"In terms of price, Ideal's products are not low, so it's appropriate to include them in the pictures. When designing this high-end brand sales and price communication chart, I discussed it with some media friends and colleagues. The following two sentiments prevailed: one was that only positive research and development could be called high-end; the other was that Nio was constantly facing overt and covert attacks.\" This is the story behind the dissemination map.</p><p>The reply immediately sparked widespread discussion, with some netizens exclaiming \"let's fight!\" while others distilled and interpreted the two sentiments mentioned in the reply as \"one is that ideals are the opposite; the other is that groups related to ideals are attacking Nio.\"</p><p>On June 12, Times Finance sent an interview request to Nio regarding the controversy sparked by the propagated image and its response, but had not received a response as of press time.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/74f6aa13817776915eef402fb5fcacf8\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"393\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Internet. Please contact us to remove any infringements.</p><p>Controversy: Is an ideal considered high-end?</p><p>According to the chart of \"May Sales and Transaction Prices of High-End Brands\", only two Chinese brands, Hongqi and Nio, were on the list of 15 brands. Among them, Hongqi sold 19,115 units that month, ranking 6th in terms of sales volume. However, in terms of average transaction price, the brand ranked last with 212,000 yuan, the lowest average transaction price on the list.</p><p>Although Nio' sales are not as good as Hongqi's, its average transaction price ranks fourth among them. According to the ranking data, Nio sold 6,078 vehicles in May, with an average transaction price of 432,900 yuan, only 2,700 yuan behind Mercedes-Benz, which ranked third in terms of transaction price. The Porsche with the highest transaction price was 834,300 yuan, followed by Land Rover with an average transaction price of 657,800 yuan.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/165ca4b184d6a72e78ec4e8ac71aeb44\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"395\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Nio official APP</p><p>However, the controversy surrounding this high-end brand sales volume and price dissemination chart mainly concentrates on the fact that only Nio, the \"three treasures of emerging car manufacturers\" with whom they have always been close, is on the list, while the other two competitors are nowhere to be seen. In other words,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">Li Auto</a>and<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">XPeng Automotive</a>It is not recognized as a high-end brand for comparison.</p><p>\"The Nio employees who created this map had their own 'little tricks.' You should know that the lowest average transaction price for Hongqi is already 212,000 yuan. It's one thing that XPeng wasn't included in this map, but the average transaction price for Li Auto is over 320,000 yuan, and 4,323 vehicles were delivered in May. Based on the transaction price and sales volume, it must have reached the lowest value. It should be included in this map no matter what.\" The aforementioned consumer posted on the official Nio APP expressing his confusion.</p><p>According to the latest data released by Li Auto on June 2, it delivered 4,323 vehicles in May, a year-on-year increase of 101.3%. Currently, Li Auto only has<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3b325ee5d950d5419ed974c29fb1e901\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">The 2021 Li Auto ONE, which will be delivered starting in June, has a unified retail price of 338,000 yuan nationwide, which is 10,000 yuan more expensive than the previous model (328,000 yuan). In other words, even in May, before the facelift was released, the average transaction price of the Li Auto was no less than 328,000 yuan.</p><p>In response, the consumer made two major suggestions to Nio: first, to include Li Auto in the picture next month; and second, to note \"excluding range-extended car brands\" in the picture. In response to the consumer's post, Ma Lin said that he would seriously consider the relevant suggestions, \"Looking back now, I was too obsessed. Objectively reflecting the market situation is beneficial to users as a whole.\"</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f0295a413182c34f0f95990635ab3b5\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"652\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Screenshot from Nio official APP</p><p>In fact, the infographic does not provide further comments or explanations regarding the definition of a high-end brand. NIO founder and CEO Li Bin recently stated at the 4th National Young Entrepreneurs Summit that \"the average selling price of Nio cars is 434,700 yuan, which is higher than the average selling price of Audi and BMW, and even higher than...\"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>The average selling price in China is also about 100,000 yuan higher, and as of the end of April this year, Nio had delivered a total of 102,803 vehicles. This is enough to demonstrate that Nio has become a high-end brand, at least initially.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1fe67c3cc2a4b496fa4d5115dfcba2f\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"467\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Internet. Please contact us to remove any infringements.</p><p>Love-Hate Entanglement: A Ranking Battle?</p><p>It is worth noting that regarding the controversy sparked by the aforementioned \"May sales and transaction prices of high-end brands\" dissemination chart, some netizens expressed their agreement with Nio' approach, saying that \"in all the rankings released by Li Auto, it always cleverly avoids Nio models that perform better than it with precise attributes.\" In response, many netizens offered suggestions, suggesting that Nio Motors rearrange the attributes. \"This list is indeed easy to misunderstand. I suggest that Nio add appropriate attributes, or just make a new energy vehicle list and label pure electric vehicles in small print.\"</p><p>On the same day, Li Auto also released two sales rankings. In the May sales ranking of new energy SUVs (including pure electric, range-extended electric, and plug-in hybrid models), the Li Auto ONE ranked second, second only to Tesla.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f57244ae005ef9eb817a8fe277106b8b\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Model Y( parameters | pictures); In May's mid-to-large SUV sales rankings, it surpassed SAIC Volkswagen.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/39488c66c41c15443f5a5326ccefd07e\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Teramont (parameters|image) unlocks the champion.</p><p>In response, Li Xiang, founder and CEO of Li Auto, posted on his personal social media platform that although it faced a change in model year in May, the Li Auto ONE still became the top-selling mid-to-large-sized SUV in China for the first time, including all gasoline and new energy vehicles. \"We've finally achieved the boast we made when we first launched the Li Auto ONE project (the number ONE seller of mid-to-large SUVs).\"</p><p>Looking at the \"May Mid-to-Large SUV Sales Ranking\" chart above, neither Nio nor XPeng Motor Company has any corresponding models on the list. According to the \"May New Energy SUV Sales Ranking\" chart, Nio...<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f36e436ab4b63bb13c26954a43ffebe7\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">ES6 (parameters | pictures) and Nio<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f36e436ab4b63bb13c26954a43ffebe7\" tg-width=\"28\" tg-height=\"21\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">The EC6 ranked 4th and 6th on the list, respectively, while the XPeng G3 ranked 7th, both behind the Li Auto ONE.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0365bcce6471b5c9dbbce69d5808f2cc\" tg-width=\"702\" tg-height=\"395\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Image source: Li Auto</p><p>In response, an industry insider analyzed for Times Finance that there are some tricks in setting up the above rankings. For example, the \"May Mid-to-Large SUV Sales Ranking\" chart sets a threshold for mid-to-large SUVs, which prevents the ES6, the best-selling model in Nio, from being selected. Previously, many automakers had tried to package themselves as \"number one\" with different indicators and settings.</p><p>According to NIO's latest sales data, Nio delivered 6,711 units in May 2021, a year-on-year increase of 95.3%. Among them, Nio delivered 1,412 ES8 units, Nio delivered 3,017 ES6 units, and Nio delivered 2,282 EC6 units.</p><p>\"Healthy competition is something the market welcomes,\" the aforementioned industry insider told Times Finance. However, instead of fighting fiercely over sales rankings, it's better to focus on making good products. After all, any good word-of-mouth and positive reviews ultimately come from consumers, not from automakers' self-promotion.</p>\n<div class=\"bt-text\">\n\n\n<p> source:<a href=\"http://www.time-weekly.com/post/282113\">时代财经</a></p>\n\n\n</div>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8d0766331c7f2f6ea14d21723dfbb21","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来","02015":"理想汽车-W","LI":"理想汽车"},"source_url":"http://www.time-weekly.com/post/282113","is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1131545033","content_text":"作者:李卓玲\n近日,一张主题为“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”的数据统计图在网络流传。该图囊括了德系、美系、日系、自主系等国内市场主流豪华品牌,统计了各品牌的5月销量以及平均售价并以前者高低进行排名。值得一提的是,一汽红旗以及蔚来是唯二两个被列入排名的中国品牌。\n虽然该图未标注来源,但其以蓝色为主调且强调成交价的特点均让人首先联想到蔚来。另外,据时代财经梳理,“高端品牌X月销量及成交价”图表并非首次出现在市场中,在5月中旬亦有规格相同的4月数据图表现身并引起各方关注讨论,而最新的5月图表,更引发起一轮“何为高端品牌”的舆论风波。\n6月11日,有财经领域自媒体大V兼蔚来车主在蔚来官方APP上发帖引用上述“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”图,质疑为何没有将理想和小鹏放在该图比较,是否说明不认为他们是“高端品牌”。\n该帖随后获认证为蔚来企业传播高级总监兼公关总监马麟的回应:“从售价上说,理想在售产品价格不低,放在图片里是应该的。最早在设计这张高端品牌销量售价传播图的时候,和一些媒体朋友及同事有过讨论,以下两个情绪占据上风,一个是正向研发才能被称为高端;另一个情绪来源是,蔚来持续遭遇明里暗里的攻击。这是传播图背后的故事。”\n该回复一出即引发众议,有网友直呼“打起来”,有网友则提炼并解读该回复中提及的两种情绪为“一是理想是逆向;二是理想相关群体攻击蔚来”。\n6月12日,时代财经就该传播图及回复引发的争论向蔚来方面发去采访函,但截至发稿前暂未获回应。\n\n图片来源:网络,侵权请联系删除\n争议:理想算不算高端?\n据“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”图表显示,上榜的15个品牌中仅有红旗和蔚来两个中国品牌。其中,红旗当月销量为19115辆,以销量维度来看排名第6名,但以平均成交价维度来看,该品牌则以21.2万元垫底,为该榜单中的最低平均成交价。\n蔚来虽销量不敌红旗,但其平均成交价在其中排名第四。据该榜单数据显示,蔚来5月累计销量为6078辆,平均成交价为43.29万元,距成交价排行第三的奔驰仅相差2700元。而成交价排行第一的为保时捷的83.43万元,路虎以65.78万元的平均成交价排行次之。\n\n图片来源:蔚来官方APP\n不过,这张高端品牌销量售价传播图引发的争议主要还是集中在,向来关系匪浅的“造车新势力三宝”却仅“当事方”蔚来上榜,另外两名友商不见踪影。换言之,理想汽车和小鹏汽车并不被认可为高端品牌上榜比较。\n“做这张图的蔚来员工是有自己‘小心机’的,要知道这张图的平均成交价最低值红旗已经是21.2万元了,没把小鹏放到这张图里也就罢了,但是理想平均成交价32万以上,5月交付4323辆,按成交价、销量肯定都达到最低值了,怎么说也应该进入这个图里。”上述消费者在蔚来官方APP上发帖提出了自己的困惑。\n据理想汽车6月2日公布的最新数据显示,其5月交付4323辆,同比增长101.3%。而目前理想汽车旗下仅理想ONE(参数|图片)一款车型,从6月开始交付的2021款理想ONE全国统一零售价为33.8万元,较此前的老款车型(32.8万)贵了一万。换言之,即便是在改款还未上新的5月,理想汽车的平均成交价也不低于32.8万。\n对此,该消费者给蔚来提了两大建议:一是下月将理想放进图中,二是在图中备注“不含增程式汽车品牌”。而马麟随后在回复该消费者的帖子时称,会认真考虑相关建议,“现在来看,我执念太强了,客观反应市场情况对用户整体是有利的”。\n\n图片来源:蔚来官方APP截图\n实际上,对于高端品牌的定义,该传播图并未作出更多注释和说明。而蔚来创始人、CEO李斌不久前在第四届全国青年企业家峰会上称,“蔚来汽车的平均售价为43.47万元,比奥迪和宝马的平均售价还要高,甚至比特斯拉中国的平均售价也要高出个10来万,并且截止今年4月底,蔚来汽车的总交付量达到了102803辆。这足以说明蔚来汽车已经成为了一个高端品牌,至少已经初步形成。”\n\n图片来源:网络,侵权请联系删除\n爱恨纠葛:排位之争?\n值得关注的是,对于上述“高端品牌5月销量及成交价”传播图引发的争议,有网友则表示赞同蔚来的做法,称“在理想发布的所有排名中,总能用精确的定语巧妙避开比它成绩好的蔚来车型”。对此,有不少网友也纷纷出谋划策,建议蔚来汽车将定语重新排一下,“这个榜单确实容易引起误解,建议蔚来加上合适定语,或者只做新能源榜单即可,小字标上纯电车型”。\n而同日,理想汽车也发布了两份销量榜单,其中,在5月新能源SUV(包含纯电动、增程式电动、插电式混合动力车型)销量排名中,理想ONE获第二名,仅次于特斯拉Model Y(参数|图片);而在5月中大型SUV销量榜单中,则超越上汽大众途昂(参数|图片)解锁冠军。\n对此,理想汽车创始人、CEO李想在其私人社交平台上发文,称五月份虽然面临年代款产品更替,但是理想ONE上险量仍然第一次成为了中国中大型SUV车型销量的冠军,包含所有燃油和新能源的车型。“总算把我们当初立项理想ONE时吹的牛(中大型SUV销量第一)给实现了。”\n从上述“5月中大型SUV销量排名”图上看,蔚来和小鹏汽车同样未有相应车型上榜。而据“5月新能源SUV销量排名”图来看,蔚来ES6(参数|图片)和蔚来EC6(参数|图片)分别位列榜单第4和第6,而小鹏G3则排名第7,均排在理想ONE之后。\n\n图片来源:理想汽车\n对此,有业界人士对时代财经分析称,上述榜单在设置上存在一些窍门,比如“5月中大型SUV销量排名”图中设置了中大型SUV的门槛,这也导致蔚来最畅销的ES6无法选入。而此前,也有不少车企试过以不同的指标和设定来包装自己得“第一”。\n据蔚来最新销量数据显示,2021年5月蔚来交付了6711台,同比增长95.3%,其中,蔚来ES8交付1412台,蔚来ES6交付3017台,蔚来EC6交付2282台。\n“良性的竞争,市场是喜闻乐见的。”上述业界人士对时代财经称,不过,与其在销量排名上斗得不可开交,不如老老实实做好产品,毕竟任何好口碑和好评,都最终来自于消费者,而非车企自我标榜。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"02015":0.9,"NIO":0.9,"LI":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3282,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":182538322,"gmtCreate":1623587145966,"gmtModify":1704206643864,"author":{"id":"3581932308267589","authorId":"3581932308267589","name":"Ak88","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":11,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581932308267589","idStr":"3581932308267589"},"themes":[],"title":"","htmlText":"Like n comment","listText":"Like n comment","text":"Like n comment","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/182538322","repostId":"1105134625","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1105134625","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"为用户提供金融资讯、行情、数据,旨在帮助投资者理解世界,做投资决策。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"老虎资讯综合","id":"102","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1623140058,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1105134625?lang=en_US&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-08 16:14","market":"fut","language":"zh","title":"Reminder: The market closure schedule for the Dragon Boat Festival is here! Hong Kong stocks will be closed for one day on June 14.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105134625","media":"老虎资讯综合","summary":"6月14日(周一)休市,6月15日(周二)起照常开市。美股、英股、新加坡股市照常交易。端午节,又称端阳节、龙舟节、天中节等,源于自然天象崇拜,由上古时代祭龙演变而来。因传说战国时期的楚国诗人屈原在五月五日跳汨罗江自尽,后来人们亦将端午节作为纪念屈原的节日;也有纪念伍子胥、曹娥及介子推等说法。总的来说,端午节起源于上古先民择“飞龙在天”吉日拜祭龙祖、祈福辟邪,注入夏季时令“祛病防疫\"风尚。","content":"<p>With the Dragon Boat Festival, a traditional Chinese festival, approaching, the closure arrangements for major markets are as follows:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad358d24b10a4ecf9c9fa183f3c2ab9b\" tg-width=\"779\" tg-height=\"667\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><b>A-shares:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on Monday, June 14, and will reopen as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Hong Kong stocks:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on Monday, June 14, and will reopen as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Australian stocks:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on June 14 (Monday) due to Queen's Birthday, and will reopen as usual from June 15 (Tuesday).</p><p><b>US, UK, and Singapore stock markets are trading as usual.</b></p><p><b>Shanghai-Hong Kong Stock Connect and Shenzhen-Hong</b></p><p>Services will not be provided on Monday, June 14, but will resume as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Hong Kong Stock Connect:</b></p><p>Services will not be provided on Monday, June 14, but will resume as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Background Introduction:</b></p><p>The Dragon Boat Festival, also known as the Dragon Boat Festival, the Dragon Boat Festival, or the Heavenly Festival, originated from the worship of natural celestial phenomena and evolved from dragon worship in ancient times. During the Dragon Boat Festival in midsummer, the seven constellations of the Azure Dragon soar in the south, occupying the most \"central\" position of the year, as the line of the fifth line of the Qian Hexagram of the I Ching says: \"The dragon flies in the sky.\" Its origins cover ancient astrological culture, humanistic philosophy and other aspects, and it contains profound and rich cultural connotations. In the process of inheritance and development, it has mixed various folk customs into one, and the content of festivals is rich. Dragon boat racing and eating zongzi (sticky rice dumplings) are two major customs of the Dragon Boat Festival, which have been passed down in China since ancient times and continue to this day.</p><p>The Dragon Boat Festival was originally a festival created by ancient people to pay homage to the Dragon Ancestor and pray for blessings and ward off evil spirits. Legend has it that Qu Yuan, a poet from the State of Chu during the Warring States period, committed suicide by jumping into the Miluo River on May 5th. Later, people also regarded the Dragon Boat Festival as a festival to commemorate Qu Yuan. There are also claims to commemorate Wu Zixu, Cao E, and Jie Zitui. In general, the Dragon Boat Festival originated from the fact that ancient people chose the auspicious day of \"flying dragons in the sky\" to worship the Dragon Ancestor and pray for blessings and ward off evil spirits, injecting the summer season trend of \"curing diseases and preventing epidemics\".<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09ea6dbc4088c8bacb63a863e559c64b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"424\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Reminder: The market closure schedule for the Dragon Boat Festival is here! Hong Kong stocks will be closed for one day on June 14.</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 12.5px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nReminder: The market closure schedule for the Dragon Boat Festival is here! Hong Kong stocks will be closed for one day on June 14.\n</h2>\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/102\">\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">老虎资讯综合 </p>\n<p class=\"h-time smaller\">2021-06-08 16:14</p>\n</div>\n</a>\n</h4>\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>With the Dragon Boat Festival, a traditional Chinese festival, approaching, the closure arrangements for major markets are as follows:<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ad358d24b10a4ecf9c9fa183f3c2ab9b\" tg-width=\"779\" tg-height=\"667\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><b>A-shares:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on Monday, June 14, and will reopen as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Hong Kong stocks:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on Monday, June 14, and will reopen as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Australian stocks:</b></p><p>The market will be closed on June 14 (Monday) due to Queen's Birthday, and will reopen as usual from June 15 (Tuesday).</p><p><b>US, UK, and Singapore stock markets are trading as usual.</b></p><p><b>Shanghai-Hong Kong Stock Connect and Shenzhen-Hong</b></p><p>Services will not be provided on Monday, June 14, but will resume as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Hong Kong Stock Connect:</b></p><p>Services will not be provided on Monday, June 14, but will resume as usual on Tuesday, June 15.</p><p><b>Background Introduction:</b></p><p>The Dragon Boat Festival, also known as the Dragon Boat Festival, the Dragon Boat Festival, or the Heavenly Festival, originated from the worship of natural celestial phenomena and evolved from dragon worship in ancient times. During the Dragon Boat Festival in midsummer, the seven constellations of the Azure Dragon soar in the south, occupying the most \"central\" position of the year, as the line of the fifth line of the Qian Hexagram of the I Ching says: \"The dragon flies in the sky.\" Its origins cover ancient astrological culture, humanistic philosophy and other aspects, and it contains profound and rich cultural connotations. In the process of inheritance and development, it has mixed various folk customs into one, and the content of festivals is rich. Dragon boat racing and eating zongzi (sticky rice dumplings) are two major customs of the Dragon Boat Festival, which have been passed down in China since ancient times and continue to this day.</p><p>The Dragon Boat Festival was originally a festival created by ancient people to pay homage to the Dragon Ancestor and pray for blessings and ward off evil spirits. Legend has it that Qu Yuan, a poet from the State of Chu during the Warring States period, committed suicide by jumping into the Miluo River on May 5th. Later, people also regarded the Dragon Boat Festival as a festival to commemorate Qu Yuan. There are also claims to commemorate Wu Zixu, Cao E, and Jie Zitui. In general, the Dragon Boat Festival originated from the fact that ancient people chose the auspicious day of \"flying dragons in the sky\" to worship the Dragon Ancestor and pray for blessings and ward off evil spirits, injecting the summer season trend of \"curing diseases and preventing epidemics\".<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09ea6dbc4088c8bacb63a863e559c64b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"424\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09ea6dbc4088c8bacb63a863e559c64b","relate_stocks":{},"is_english":false,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105134625","content_text":"临近中国传统节日端午节假期,各主要市场休市安排如下:A股:6月14日(周一)休市,6月15日(周二)起照常开市。港股:6月14日(周一)休市,6月15日(周二)起照常开市。澳股:6月14日(周一)因 Queen's Birthday 休市,6月15日(周二)起照常开市。美股、英股、新加坡股市照常交易。沪股通、深股通:6月14日(周一)不提供服务,6月15日(周二)起照常开通。港股通:6月14日(周一)不提供服务,6月15日(周二)起照常开通。背景介绍:端午节,又称端阳节、龙舟节、天中节等,源于自然天象崇拜,由上古时代祭龙演变而来。仲夏端午,苍龙七宿飞升于正南中天,处于全年最“正中”之位,即如《易经·乾卦》第五爻的爻辞曰:“飞龙在天”。其起源涵盖了古老星象文化、人文哲学等方面内容,蕴含着深邃丰厚的文化内涵,在传承发展中杂糅了多种民俗为一体,节俗内容丰富。扒龙舟与食粽是端午节的两大礼俗,这两大礼俗在中国自古传承,至今不辍。端午节,本是上古先民创立用于拜祭龙祖、祈福辟邪的节日。因传说战国时期的楚国诗人屈原在五月五日跳汨罗江自尽,后来人们亦将端午节作为纪念屈原的节日;也有纪念伍子胥、曹娥及介子推等说法。总的来说,端午节起源于上古先民择“飞龙在天”吉日拜祭龙祖、祈福辟邪,注入夏季时令“祛病防疫\"风尚。","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2126,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"posts","isTTM":true}